going LHD & high

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:09 am

2 questions,, Im building a LHD vehicle (veep) and have a pedal mount unit that the LHD pedal assembly bolts to,,, its the kind of thing you see for sale in Hot VW's, not a home made thing. I bolted the sedan pedal assembly to it and things don't seem right >> the pedal stop seems to be too far back. The sedan assembly Im using is the cheap looking pressed steel type rather than the early solid lookin pedals,,,, can someone tell me if they make two different types of pedal mounts or if you have to adapt them??. I have an early set of the solid pedals but they are RHD ones,, the stop lug on those looks to be further back, which Im thinking, if its the same on the LHD's it should work OK with that mount,, anyone experienced this?. Other question >> can you buy raised (balljoint) spindles in USA?? UK just seems full of low life stuff

been hunting all over for some. I've even thought about cut n welding some standard ones, but maybe safer to go body-lift with my welding skills :help:

allen pierce · Post by **allen pierce** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:46 pm

Mel, For raised ball joint spindles... Blind Chicken Racing Go to the bottom of the page. If they won't ship to you, get in touch with me... we'll have them ship to me and then I'll send them on to you.

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:32 pm

Thanks Allen, good off road site :rock: Think Im going to need either them of a body lift by the time the 16'' Land-Rover wheel rims are fitted with the military tires. Im at that stage when you spend 4 hours in the shop, and 3 & 1/2 of those hours are spent just thinking of other / better ways of doing things

or is it just me that does that?

allen pierce · Post by **allen pierce** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:53 pm

Im at that stage when you spend 4 hours in the shop, and 3 & 1/2 of those hours are spent just thinking of other / better ways of doing things or is it just me that does that?

You're not the only one that does that.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:43 am

Mel, It's kind of hard to interpret your description as the early pedal assemblys wers a cast type and the later ones were different, the pedal stop, on the clutch pedal rides against an adjustable plate bolted to the pan. here is a photo

see if this prints. Hope this helps. the parts lis can be fd. on http://www.vwhelp.com

dennis-and-cathy · Post by **dennis-and-cathy** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:00 am

if you can find a set of Thing spindles and trailing arms they will give you a 3" lift over stock VW.

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:02 am

[QUOTE="lsjimbo"]Mel, It's kind of hard to interpret your description as the early pedal assemblys wers a cast type and the later ones were different, the pedal stop, on the clutch pedal rides against an adjustable plate bolted to the pan. here is a photo

see if this prints. Hope this helps. the parts lis can be fd. on http://www.vwhelp.com[/QUOTE] On the clutch pedal (16) the stop lug is towards the front of the pedal base (away from the driver),, but on the solid cast type the stop lug is cast towards the rear,, (or nearer the driver). The pedal mount unit I have looks like the type of thing CB performance sells for sand rails etc,, the pedal stop is fixed with NO adjustment unlike sedans. The later LHD pedal assembly I have will not allow the pedals to come towards the driver enough when they are bolted to this aftermarket pedal mount,,,,,,, but, it looks to me like if the stop lug had been located in the same place as on the cast pedals, it would work fine. Or in other words > On your pedal drawing,, the line from 16 points to the stop lug,,,, if the stop lug was towards you,, at the end you can see a small hole,, it looks like it would work with my unit. Its no big deal to adapt,, but I notice CB performance sells both the pedal mount unit and what looks to me like the pressed steel type sedan pedal assembly,,,,,, so Im guessing that maybe two types of LHD pedal mounts are made > one for early & one for late.

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:18 am

[QUOTE="dennisandcathy"]if you can find a set of Thing spindles and trailing arms they will give you a 3" lift over stock VW.[/QUOTE] Looks like a plan C ,,, now you got me thinking reduction boxes too

Only problem with that is > Im trying to narrow the track by using the early (swing axle) short axles,,, maybe the reduction units will make it too wide and give too much unsprung weight. At times I think > to hell with the original WW2 look,, but Im in this thing too deep now

Check this out>>>>>>> The shovel I have for mounting on the side of this jeep is the only WW2 thing about it,,,, this shovel was used on board the destroyer HMS Bulldog which was launched in 1930 and was broken up for scrap in 1946,,, it served in the Med as an aircraft guard ship for the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious. Bulldog was also responsible for the the capture of U-110 with the Enigma code machine & code books on board. U-110 was taken on tow and Bulldog kept her afloat for 17 hours then let the towline slip,,, not sure why they did this,, something to do with preserving the secret capture of the Enigma code machine maybe. The shovel even has the X marks carved in the handel to indicate (I guess) the 3 German U boats she sank,,, plus the aircraft guard ship crest and ''HMS BULLDOG'' set in the steel part of the shaft. The jeep may be fake guys,, but just don't mess with my shovel

Crazy thing is, I bought this shovel at a boat jumble few years back,, my plan was to mail it as a gift to Bruce Meyers,, being an old WW2 naval vet himself,,, but it sat in my bedroom & I never got around to mailing it off. So Bruce,, if you happen to read this > SORRY BOUT THAT!!

manxdavid · Post by **manxdavid** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:11 pm

A mate of mine,Evil Dan on vzi was advertizing Thing/ Trekker spindles etc on volkszone a week or so ago. Their forums still down but I could text him or call around if you're interested. He's only about a mile away.

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:11 am

I Appreciate your help guys. Nelson has got some early cast pedals for me :rock: Dave, when you find out from Dan let me know,,, if I go for the fronts guess I will need the rear reduction box set up too,, does he have those also??

manxdavid · Post by **manxdavid** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:57 am

[QUOTE="mel hubbard"]I Appreciate your help guys. Nelson has got some early cast pedals for me :rock: Dave, when you find out from Dan let me know,,, if I go for the fronts guess I will need the rear reduction box set up too,, does he have those also??[/QUOTE] Don't think so. I'll txt him l8r.

manxdavid · Post by **manxdavid** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:19 pm

Dan's got a full Thing/ Trekker beam; brake to brake for ?125, it's RHD unfortunately though. Mel, what sort of gel coat is my 'tangerine'? Is it RAL or BS? I can't seem to find tangerine on either. Ta, Dave.

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:10 pm

[QUOTE="Manxdavid"]Dan's got a full Thing/ Trekker beam; brake to brake for ?125, it's RHD unfortunately though. Mel, what sort of gel coat is my 'tangerine'? Is it RAL or BS? I can't seem to find tangerine on either. Ta, Dave.[/QUOTE] Dave, hold fire on the Trekker stuff for now,, been thinking (too bloody much) if I just put the front end on,, the S/A rear end will be way too low & sit like a speed boat. Decided to wait now until its rolling and see how it looks,, then if no good maybe I will hunt for a full LHD Trekker set up with reduction units too,,,,, you know how many guys lower those things here,, so should be able to find a set,,, if I cant sure good ol buggy Pete will. Your Gel-coat pigment I think is a Llewellyn Ryland product from the standard range colour chart,,,,,, they also have a BS range chart with loads more colour choice,, the code for yours is 3957, but thats not a BS or RAL number, just a chart code. Will have a look & see if I can find some in the shed,,, don't go buying any.

CairoManx · Post by **CairoManx** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:02 am

Mel, Using transporter reduction gearboxes to raise the rear of a sedan is a bit complicated. Years ago there was an excellent kit by John Johnson which solved the severe wheel hop problem that the upright RGBs caused. I followed a buggy at Tahoe last month that had them. He had great ground clearance and kept up fine on the street too. They say all the unsprung weight really changes a light weight buggies driving characteristics but on your Veep thats probably not too noticeable. There info about the adapter kit in the Hibbard book in Section 5, page 36-37. http://books.google.com/books?id=XJQFGmUhGlEC&pg=PA30&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=72A9sNRBGeCmLDL1sxnO22xN_CA#PPA36,M1

mel hubbard · Post by **mel hubbard** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:12 am

[QUOTE="CairoManx"]Mel, Using transporter reduction gearboxes to raise the rear of a sedan is a bit complicated. Years ago there was an excellent kit by John Johnson which solved the severe wheel hop problem that the upright RGBs caused. I followed a buggy at Tahoe last month that had them. He had great ground clearance and kept up fine on the street too. They say all the unsprung weight really changes a light weight buggies driving characteristics but on your Veep thats probably not too noticeable. There info about the adapter kit in the Hibbard book in Section 5, page 36-37. [/QUOTE] Nelson, thanks for that, I have a copy of Jeff Hibbards book, will have a read up on those pages, sounds very intreresting :rock:

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