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Adjusters

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:14 am
by Gary1719
What is the easiest way to put sway away adjusters on the front beam. i want to getsome adjustment up and down. I have a ball joint front end.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:36 am
by Chicago Joe
Gary, I think you need to remove the front beam and completely disassemble it. Then cut out the center grub screw section and have the new sway away adjuster welded into the correct position on both the upper & lower tubes. Once welded you then reassemble the front beam and replace it on the vehicle. I also remember hearing that it is a very messy, greasy, & dirty job. Not a lot of fun.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:16 am
by towd-dude
Buy a bare beam with the adjusters already installed. The other way is a lot of work, or get longer trailing arms, or both.... Bob Joe, Ps. I'll bring the chassis down to Mojave Rd and save you a trip up here...

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:19 am
by towd-dude
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Gary,[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]If you do the job yourself cut and weld one beam at a time.[/FONT] [FONT=Comic Sans MS]Bob[/FONT]

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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:00 am
by Gary1719
i have the beam tore down thought i would try myself. cutting and welding not a problem it is putting them in the right angle.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:27 pm
by GotManx
You want to have the beam disassembled and all of the grease cleaned out of it so it doesn't interfer with your welding. Scribe horizontal lines at the center of the existing grub screw holes for reference before cutting the center section out of the beam. As said before, only do one beam at a time. Use the scribe line to locate the new adjuster. If you want both up and down adjustment, rotate the adjuster so that the center of travel is on the scribe line. If you can cut and weld, it is not a difficult job.

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:36 pm
by ManxRob
I haven't used them yet, but Avis Adjusters don't require cutting the beam apart. http://www.appletreeauto.com/avis-adjus ... -1580.html "AVIS ADJUSTERS ARE A SIMPLE WAY TO MAKE YOUR BEAM ADJUSTABLE. SIMPLY INSTALL THE CENTER ADJUSTER IN THE BEAM AND OBLONGATE YOUR EXISTING GRUB SCREW HOLE. WELD ON THE ADJUSTER PLATE TO THE BEAM. PROVIDES A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO ADJUST YOUR RIDE HIEGHT."

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:15 pm
by newmanx59
I was going to suggest Avis adjusters. Quick and easy to install and a bit easier to adjust.

Thanks

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:43 am
by Gary1719
Thanks for help Guys. I have seen something before about the scribe i just wasnt quite sure were to position the adjuster at with reference to this line. Gary

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:00 am
by manxdavid
[QUOTE="manxrob;15059"]I haven't used them yet, but Avis Adjusters don't require cutting the beam apart. http://www.appletreeauto.com/avis-adjus ... -1580.html "AVIS ADJUSTERS ARE A SIMPLE WAY TO MAKE YOUR BEAM ADJUSTABLE. SIMPLY INSTALL THE CENTER ADJUSTER IN THE BEAM AND OBLONGATE YOUR EXISTING GRUB SCREW HOLE. WELD ON THE ADJUSTER PLATE TO THE BEAM. PROVIDES A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO ADJUST YOUR RIDE HIEGHT."[/QUOTE] How do you get the old center piece out of the old beam and the new center adjuster in place on Avis adjusters? Without a milling machine I guess the best way to slot the grub screw hole would be chain drilling and grinding? Is 'OBLONGATE' a real word in the US?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:15 pm
by GotManx
With the Avis style adjusters you use the original stock center piece. You are correct David, drill two holes and grind in between (oblongate works for me). But first you have to drill and grind out the dimple on the beam at the back of the center section so that it will rotate. This also allows you to slide the center section out of the way while you make the slotted (oblongated) hole. Avis adjusters work better for lowering than raising, because it is dificult to put much preload on the Avis style without the adjusting bolt like the Sway-A-Way style.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:33 pm
by manxdavid
I've never been a great fan of Sway a ways, always having prefered to just cut and turn the center mounts and weld them solid. On a Bug 1/2" turn on each tube gave an even 4" drop. I like the look of the Avis ones though as they don't take too much of the original strength out of the beam.

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:24 pm
by shaky
[quote="gary1719;15054"]i have the beam tore down thought i would try myself. cutting and welding not a problem it is putting them in the right angle.[/quote] If you look carefully you will see that the adjusters aren't at the same angle as each other. This gives the suspension a pre-load ;-)

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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:18 am
by Gary1719
ImageImageImage I managed to get something done today Adjusters in and spot welds tig welded up just have to grind smooth. I thought you guys could use some pictures. Gary 1719#

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:15 am
by jsturtlebuggy
Looks good. I use them. They work great. They are the same style that are used on a Porsche 356.