fuel pump?

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:36 pm

I have a facet electric pump, 4-7psi. The one i originally put in went out while trying to fire up new motor, I mounted it on the back of the fan shroud with a regular plastic vw type filter before the pump as per the instructions. The new facet pump is made by purolater and the direction say to mount it near the tank 12 inches below. The power came from the ignition lead going to the coil and ground to the fan shroud. Should I Pull my hood off and mount it near the tank? is this very important? Also it says to term the pos to the oil pressure switch? Its a one wire switch that works on ground i think? I am running duel dell 40 carbs and have been assured this pump will be okay for them? Any input is much appriciated Thanks in advance C-Dub

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:57 pm

That pump may have to much pressure for a VW engine/carbs. Facet makes a pump with 1 1/2 to 3 psi that is ideal for a VW engine. I mounted my pump below the tank on the frame head. It works out real nice and no need to pull the hood. They want you to hook the wiring in the oil pressure circuit so the pump will shut off if the engine is not running. This will keep fuel from pumping out if you are in an accident and the fuel line ruptures.

CairoManx · Post by **CairoManx** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:12 pm

If your tank is up front in the standard location there should be plenty of space to mount an electric pump on the chassis frame head section, below the tank. Pull your passenger side front wheel off and look for a big flat metal shelf on the frame. This would be on the opposite side of the frame from your master cylinder and in front of the fiberglass tub, directly ahead of your passenger's feet. You can run a hose from the valve on the bottom of the tank, down to the pump, then out of the pump to the original metal fuel line.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:14 pm

I would mount it like newmanx59 but also add a regulator in the rear. about 3 psi. dell's I believe can handle 4.5 lbs( I could be wrong) but 3 is a safe pressure. I would add the oil switch , for me the reason is I turn the radio on all the time with out running the engine.

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:12 pm

[QUOTE="seabeeBuggy"]I would mount it like newmanx59 but also add a regulator in the rear. about 3 psi. dell's I believe can handle 4.5 lbs( I could be wrong) but 3 is a safe pressure. I would add the oil switch , for me the reason is I turn the radio on all the time with out running the engine.[/QUOTE] If you decide to use a regulator, make sure it's not one of the round adjustable regulators. At low pressures they hinder fuel flow.

Reverb · Post by **Reverb** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:21 pm

As far as mounting the pump in the front...I think it`s a good idea. I`ve heard that it`s always better to push the fuel from the tank, rather than pull it from the engine. Weber makes an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

Edit: Newmanx, is this the kind not to use?

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:49 pm

The Redline Weber regulator works great. It's this type to stay away from..

They come with all kinds of different names stuck to them.

Gene-C · Post by **Gene-C** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:52 pm

thanks you all Very much

BrianK · Post by **BrianK** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:16 pm

I can't seem to find this regulator for sale anywhere.. Can anyone point me to where I can find one? [QUOTE=Reverb]As far as mounting the pump in the front...I think it`s a good idea. I`ve heard that it`s always better to push the fuel from the tank, rather than pull it from the engine. Weber makes an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

Edit: Newmanx, is this the kind not to use?[/QUOTE]

joemama · Post by **joemama** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:54 pm

Facet pumps come in 2colors, red, and blue. Does anybody know wich of the 2 is the lower pressure model?. Thanks.

racetearoffs · Post by **racetearoffs** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:30 pm

I am going to an electric fuel pump today . I am not getting enough fuel from the mechanical pump . I have a fuel filter inline and it is just dribbling out . Runs sometimes then dies , just a 30 pict carb on 1600 motor . I have checked all the wires , timing , coil thanks Don and I think the fuel pump is the culprit .

FAKMANX · Post by **FAKMANX** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:27 pm

As far as wiring the fuel pump to the oil presure switch, remember not to run carbureator out of gas. The pump wont run until the motor starts and oil presure builds, unless the switch is very sensitive. You could run a primer switch on dash, just my :2cents:.

croakintowd · Post by **croakintowd** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:56 am

Reverb and BrianK have pix of a regulator that is essentially the top part of a filter / regulator known as Filter King. I've found them at Pierce Manifolds and on Ebay. ManxDavid is probably familiar with them, as they used to come standard on some "foreign" cars. (Fiat?)s. The bowl on the Filter / Regulator is a thick Polycarbonate, and if that isn't strong enough there is a metal bowl for it also. Though my car isn't runing yet, I put one of the Filter King "Combo" units on as you can regulate the pressure, and see the fuel and filter, through the bowl. C-Ya,

newmanx59 · Post by **newmanx59** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:13 pm

[QUOTE="joemama"]Facet pumps come in 2colors, red, and blue. Does anybody know wich of the 2 is the lower pressure model?. Thanks.[/QUOTE] I can't tell you what pressure each pump has but I can tell you I bought Facet pump from PEP Boys for my John Deere lawn tractor that is rated 1 to 4 lbs and they also had one rated for 4 to 6 or 7? lbs. JD calls for 1 1/2lbs and the new electric pump is working great without a regulator. It beats the heck out of the $100 John Deere pump and it was easier to install.

Complex One · Post by **Complex One** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:17 pm

BrainK, Here is a link for the regulator that you are looking for. http://www.redlineweber.com/html/fuel_a ... lators.htm As far as having problems with a stock carb on a 1600CC with an OEM mechanical fuel pump I believe that your problems are most likely elses where as I am ruinning dual Weber 44IDF carbs on a 2180CC motor using a stock fuel pump and not having any problems. Even though I purchased a Carter electronic fuel pump for my Manxter I have not gotten around to installing it yet along with the pump block off. Only purchased it anyway to see if it would make any difference at all. http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp ... C10%2D5631 Directions on this particular Carter pump say to NOT use a fuel regulator. Just what the directions say anyway for this particular style of fuel pump. Hope this helps.